Michael Pachter believes Wii U will place a 'distant third' in console wars

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Wii-U-Logo.pngWedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter has given his perspective on the console wars, declaring that Nintendo’s home console will fall behind the PS4 and Xbox One in sales.

“Nintendo’s in trouble right now,” said Pachter to ABC News. “Nintendo, I think, waited two years too long to launch a competitive console, you know, a high-definition console with the PS3 and the Xbox 360. I think by the time they did launch a console that stacks up really well, the other two guys passed them by.”

Microsoft and Sony’s consoles will both launch sometime in November, a year behind the Wii U. But one of the main problems with the Wii U is that it hasn’t secured the support of third-parties, with notable publisher EA all-but pulling support for the console altogether. Many of the games showcased at E3 2013 by were first-party titles, created by Nintendo themselves.

But one of the real differences between the three companies is their background and what they’ve aimed to do with their products. Where Nintendo have always focused on the gameplay and not worried as much about graphics, Sony have primarily focused on the graphics and reaching the hardcore gamers with their forthcoming PS4, with Microsoft’s Xbox One shifting focus towards entertainment and reaching families as well as hardcore gamers.

“We know EA has no games in development for Wii U,” added Pachter. “If others follow suit, I mean if you see Activision pull support, if you see Ubisoft, you see Take 2 pull support, the Wii U is a Nintendo-only gaming device, which is the way they were back with the NES in 1985. They’re not going to sell a lot of consoles if they don’t have games like FIFA, and Battlefield, and Call of Duty, and Grand Theft Auto.”

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  • Pachter is right, in the last generation little kids and adult
    casuals flocked to the Wii, and core gamers went to PS3/Xbox360. For this next
    generation pretty much all the little kids and adult casuals have flocked to mobile
    gaming (not to the Wii U), and core gamers will go to the PS4/Xbox1. But the little
    kids will grow up soon and get bored of the mainly cheap crappy mobile games and will
    graduate on to the PS4 and Xbox1 which have proper graphics and gameplay.

  • Pachter is right, in the last generation little kids and adultcasuals flocked to the Wii, and core gamers went to PS3/Xbox360. For this nextgeneration pretty much all the little kids and adult casuals have flocked to mobilegaming (not to the Wii U), and core gamers will go to the PS4/Xbox1. But the littlekids will grow up soon and get bored of the mainly cheap crappy mobile games and willgraduate on to the PS4 and Xbox1 which have proper graphics and gameplay.

  • “They’re not going to sell a lot of consoles if they don’t have games like FIFA, and Battlefield, and Call of Duty, and Grand Theft Auto.” This guy’s an ignoramus to think that Nintendo fans are the exact same breed as Sony/Microsoft fans. FIFA and CoD do not have Nintendo hardware-selling capabilities akin to PS360 (proof:both FIFA and CoD were there at Wii U’s launch) and Battlefield and GTA have never been on a Nintendo home console before (and the only time GTA made an appearance on a handheld, it was largely ignored and sold very poorly, despite it being one of the best DS games) point is, in the realm of Nintendo and its fanbase, these are considered niche titles, believe it or not. It’s all about first party games – that’s what’s always moved Nintendo hardware. Super Mario 3D World, Wii Fit U, and Wii Party U all come out by years end – those are the system sellers – they’re also releasing Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, and Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker HD alongside the other three, not to mention some solid 3rd party titles (Batman Arkham Origins, Watch_Dogs, AC IV, Splinter Cell, Rayman Legends, and maybe CoD Ghosts) as well as plenty digital-only eShop titles.

    • Addendum: Indie developers – they are flocking to Nintendo as well. 2014 is already seeing a nice list of titles to keep gamers occupied on Wii U in between retail releases.

  • “They're not going to sell a lot of consoles if they don't have games like FIFA, and Battlefield, and Call of Duty, and Grand Theft Auto.” This guy's an ignoramus to think that Nintendo fans are the exact same breed as Sony/Microsoft fans. FIFA and CoD do not have Nintendo hardware-selling capabilities akin to PS360 (proof:both FIFA and CoD were there at Wii U's launch) and Battlefield and GTA have never been on a Nintendo home console before (and the only time GTA made an appearance on a handheld, it was largely ignored and sold very poorly, despite it being one of the best DS games) point is, in the realm of Nintendo and its fanbase, these are considered niche titles, believe it or not. It's all about first party games – that's what's always moved Nintendo hardware. Super Mario 3D World, Wii Fit U, and Wii Party U all come out by years end – those are the system sellers – they're also releasing Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, and Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker HD alongside the other three, not to mention some solid 3rd party titles (Batman Arkham Origins, Watch_Dogs, AC IV, Splinter Cell, Rayman Legends, and maybe CoD Ghosts) as well as plenty digital-only eShop titles.

    • Addendum: Indie developers – they are flocking to Nintendo as well. 2014 is already seeing a nice list of titles to keep gamers occupied on Wii U in between retail releases.

  • This guy Pachter. Iam telling you right now. if he’s wrong Iam gonna laugh my ass off on his twitter page, it’s not going to be even funny to him Lol.

  • This guy Pachter. Iam telling you right now. if he's wrong Iam gonna laugh my ass off on his twitter page, it's not going to be even funny to him Lol.

  • Do worse than the xbone one!? Impossible! And have you seen the graphics of the wii u!? Go watch the trailers for ssb4 and mario kart 8 and tell me they’re not better than the playstation 4’s graphics!
    Nintendo has always done well, and will continue to do so.

    • The wii u’s graphics are not as good as the ps4’s.

      The fact that you would even pretend it is shows how stupid you are.

      The wii u is in between the ps3 and ps4.

  • Do worse than the xbone one!? Impossible! And have you seen the graphics of the wii u!? Go watch the trailers for ssb4 and mario kart 8 and tell me they're not better than the playstation 4's graphics!Nintendo has always done well, and will continue to do so.

    • The wii u's graphics are not as good as the ps4's.

      The fact that you would even pretend it is shows how stupid you are.

      The wii u is in between the ps3 and ps4.

    • Always wrong? Do you have any idea how stupid and wrong you are???

      Every prediction and every comment he has made about the wii u has proven true.

      Literally EVERYTHING he has said has been true.

      So someone with a 100% track record of success is “always wrong” according to you?

      Pachter says 1+1= 2
      Nintendo says 1+1=3

      And of course you say pachter is wrong and nintendo is right.

      Please refresh my memory, when nintendo was predicting 7 million wii u would be sold in 6 months, who was it that said it would be less than 4 million? Oh thats right, it was PACHTER.

      Just because you are a nintendo loser and hate seeing nintendo fail DOES NOT mean that anti-nintendo people are wrong.

      Every negative prediction about nintendo and the wii u has come true.

      Get over it. Pretending that someone who has been right 100% of the time is somehow stupid is just beyong retarded.

  • Man i hate that guy. He is always wrong. Guess where I think his head is.

    • Always wrong? Do you have any idea how stupid and wrong you are???

      Every prediction and every comment he has made about the wii u has proven true.

      Literally EVERYTHING he has said has been true.

      So someone with a 100% track record of success is “always wrong” according to you?

      Pachter says 1+1= 2Nintendo says 1+1=3

      And of course you say pachter is wrong and nintendo is right.

      Please refresh my memory, when nintendo was predicting 7 million wii u would be sold in 6 months, who was it that said it would be less than 4 million? Oh thats right, it was PACHTER.

      Just because you are a nintendo loser and hate seeing nintendo fail DOES NOT mean that anti-nintendo people are wrong.

      Every negative prediction about nintendo and the wii u has come true.

      Get over it. Pretending that someone who has been right 100% of the time is somehow stupid is just beyong retarded.

  • Wedbush Morgan is a private equity/investment company. To gamers, games are about entertainment and fun. If you enjoy a game, console, etc – then buy it. Why in the hell does anyone pay attention to this jackass, who is not a gamer, has nothing to do with the industry, development, design, etc? Who cares what he thinks about anything? EA is throwing a fit over origin, and nothing more. Nintendo has always done their own thing, and is not in direct competition with XBox and PS. And consider the difference in mentality. Yes, I like Black Ops, and some other “mature” games, but Nintendo is not into the whole murderdeathwarsports games that are the US/western staples. It is a cultural difference. While Nintendo has not caught up in the tech world, do not discredit their culture because you don’t feel it is as profitable (the wii and ds both had doom a gloom in their first year). They all put out solid consoles and games. Get the console and games that you love. I own a Wii U, and it is a great console, but it doesn’t mean I will not also be gaming on my PC.

    • Every comment and prediction about the wii u by Pachter has been correct.

      So you are asking why people would listen to someone with a 100% track record….maybe its because he has a 100% track record.

      When someone is right EVERY TIME, people tend to listen.

      Maybe if you werent a butt-hurt nintendo loser you could pull your head out of your butt and accept reality.

      The wii u is a horrible system with no games to play.

      • 100%? Seems like Phacter missed the mark big time with the success of the 3ds. He doesnt have a crystal ball of the future and can never predict how consumers react. I was a doubter too, but the Wii U is awesome once i took the plunge, and no doubt others will see it too when it gaines momentum. Never underestimate Nintendo.

  • Wedbush Morgan is a private equity/investment company. To gamers, games are about entertainment and fun. If you enjoy a game, console, etc – then buy it. Why in the hell does anyone pay attention to this jackass, who is not a gamer, has nothing to do with the industry, development, design, etc? Who cares what he thinks about anything? EA is throwing a fit over origin, and nothing more. Nintendo has always done their own thing, and is not in direct competition with XBox and PS. And consider the difference in mentality. Yes, I like Black Ops, and some other “mature” games, but Nintendo is not into the whole murderdeathwarsports games that are the US/western staples. It is a cultural difference. While Nintendo has not caught up in the tech world, do not discredit their culture because you don't feel it is as profitable (the wii and ds both had doom a gloom in their first year). They all put out solid consoles and games. Get the console and games that you love. I own a Wii U, and it is a great console, but it doesn't mean I will not also be gaming on my PC.

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